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Page 1 of 2 1 2 Last Jump to page: Results 1 to 15 of Differences in enclosures – Scoop vs. Is one significantly better than the other for music like jazz or classical or rock? Either would used with speakers that will be crossed over anywhere from to hz. And expected to get down to at least 50hz, as my subs will be crossed over at 60hz. I’m 4350 interested in the But my research shows that mostly hard rockers are using this enclosure. Will it also sound great with jazz, piano, classical and other critical listening music?
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Or am I better off with the for my speakers? Below is the on the left and on the right. Not to scale of course.
I’d suggest you take some time and run a search on both cabinets here. I have a set of the s that came with JBL woofers. They’re efficient and have great bass. The cool thing about them, though, is the use of Zilchplugs search here for that one, too and you can control the low-end cutoff point by filling up any number of the 4 vents.
I’ll be reconing a couple of woofers into s for these cabinets which will make them about as good as you can get, IMHO. There will be others along here who have commented in far better technical detail on these many times in the past.
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Originally Posted by doodlebug. The C34 scoop with it’s “rounded” back end looks interesting as well, as a “prettier” alternative to the But the plans available here are difficult to read and not overly comprehensive.
Just will require extra planning to figure things out. Also, the plans call for a 37″ height, but most C34 owners in the threads I’ve read so far are saying their cabinets are 39″. Perhaps they are including feet in their dimensions. Have look at the C40! The C40 would be easier to build.
I have used the a lot but, never the Your right, it was popular with rockers a million years ago, We used to use them for P. I suppose the purpose of the scoop was to ad some throw to the box but, for live applications it really made no difference. The box was notorious for having no throw or impact and a big round soft bottom The did shine on two applications: DJ’s used to do this with Cerwin Vega B36’s.
You would need at least 4 boxes, ideally 8 per side.
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Low and behold that configuration had all the throw and impact in the world The drivers all coupled closely with the scoops fanning out became a force to be reckoned with.
If your application is home theater or music listening, I would go with the Originally Posted by Akira. If you are using subs, this likely wont be an issue, but otherwise, the cab is capable of lower extention.
I have used with H and H and found it to be a great unit with either driver. For home purposes, the H is a stupendous driver with lots of great bass. You will have to plug one or two holes with it. The scoop may be a little more efficient, I’m not sure of this. The H would be an excellent driver for either of these boxes, as would the H. I remember seeing Emerson Lake and Palmer live in the mids and Greg Lake was using a side-by-side pair of cabs the dual 15″ version of the with a pair of horn lenses on top as his bass rig.
Two Crown DCAs were powering the ensemble. This was in a very large auditorium and the “throw” was terrific! Yes, either cabinet will be fitted with ‘s.
Getting mixed signals on the still. The reason I don’t like the is due to the shape and because the supposedly has more of a kick to it.
I’m really into the and yes, I’ll be using subwoofers with it! But I’m just worried that those who have the scoop are just fanboys and the enclosure may not be an jl type enclosure after all? I’m handy 4350 with woodworking that I’ll be building whatever I decide on, assuming I can get some better plans than what I’ve come across so far.
The scoop will 4350 nothing for detailed listing of jazz and classical music. The would be best served in a traditional cabinet correctly tuned to match your sub and mid. However, to achieve the detail and definition you desire you will need to do your real jbll on your midrange and tweeter selection and the corresponding crossovers that tie it mbl together.
According to the JBL data sheet Hz 45530 the maximum recommended upper end. Beyond that it looks like a nasty cone break up.
I like Hz as the crossover point. Damn shame it is in the middle of the human voice band. For jazz and vocals it would be ideal to get the crossover points below Hz and above 4, Hz to avoid phase shifts in the critical listening zones, but I guess you knew that already going into this.
I simulated the driver in a 5 cubic foot vented box tuned to In that box the F3 is about 47 Hz, which ticks nicely with your 50 Hz requirement. However, you will need to have a very steep filter on the bottom end because the xmax of.
Personally, I would think that it would be better to limit the upper end of the to no more than Hz and try to find a good mid horn to pick nbl from there and carry you above 3, HZ to avoid disrupting the vocal band.
I’d be curious to hear what others might think. The is a better bass horn.
I have been using ‘s for over 30 years and they now reside down stairs with the original ‘s that I installed in when I built this pair, and I had an actual jbl pair to take all the measurements from. I’m now using the 12″x 6″ waveguides on ‘s and ‘s crossed over at and 7K and powered with only a 50 watt per channel SAE power amp.
The sound even without my ‘s ran out of room is wonderfull. I saw the Brain Salad Surgery tour in the early 70’s which was the only ‘truely’ quadraphonic system in the world at that time. They used an exclusively JBL system top to bottom, even all the amps, processors and 3 main consoles.
They had physically removed hundreds of seats to install a mirror image system with 4 identical stacks containing: When Greg Lake sang he sounded like a God. The sonic image of his voice was as big as the entire arena. It sounded like you were right inside of his throat. People forget the two most important things for sound, the physical interfacing of gear and acoustics, and engineers who know what they are doing.
Which begs the question: Why can’t they duplicate or supercede that fidelity today?????? There are two theories to arguing with women, but Could someone please send me or post some plans for the JBL Cabinets I would really like to build them and try them out with my H’s.
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